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		<title>Comment on Paleo-Orni-Theology by kaitlin sulak</title>
		<link>http://pesharim.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/paleo-orni-theology/#comment-139</link>
		<dc:creator>kaitlin sulak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If dinosaurs lived in our backyards years ago how can we tell?</description>
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		<title>Comment on About by Jonathan Brennekce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Brennekce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 23:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, Rich, I don&#039;t believe I entirely grasp your argument. I do hate to sound as if I might be ignoring the point of your comment, but, honestly.... what was the point?

You ask if I could say the same -- if I would convert instantly to atheism given rigorously proven data that God does not exist -- and I see a couple errors in this question. Initially, I think that atheism isn&#039;t an idea such as one can convert to. Rather, atheism is a negation of the belief in a God or gods. It&#039;s really not a matter of converting from one belief to another, but as far as science is concerned, from trivially accepting one proposition (i.e. a hypothesis or theory) to rejecting a proposition. &quot;Converting&quot; is entirely out of the question. 

I suppose I digress. Now then, would I convert instantly to atheism given rigorously proven data that God does not exist? 
Strictly speaking, the existence of God remains outside of the limits of science. So while no one could ever disprove the existence of God (b/c science merely deals in disproving, rather than proving) any Christian could also never presume to be more than an agnostic, as far as the limits of science are concerned. So again I have to ask what the point of your proposition is?

Also, science is amoral.  So, I&#039;m really quite curious what you mean by an &quot;ethical scientist&quot;. I believe that any scientist should, indeed, rightly be a skeptic, which casts into a fair bit of doubt your statement that a scientist would instantly convert to Christianity.  I remind you that Christianity is far from being the only belief system, religion or the like that is based upon the existence of a deity. 

You say, &quot;Creationists [...] need only misinterpret the data to fit your ideological goals.&quot; See, this is where the element of peer-review comes into the scientific method. And I risk sounding somewhat unscientific in daring you to do this, but please, if you find I misinterpret any data (ideological goals, for the moment, aside) don&#039;t hesitate but to correct me.  Seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, Rich, I don&#8217;t believe I entirely grasp your argument. I do hate to sound as if I might be ignoring the point of your comment, but, honestly&#8230;. what was the point?</p>
<p>You ask if I could say the same &#8212; if I would convert instantly to atheism given rigorously proven data that God does not exist &#8212; and I see a couple errors in this question. Initially, I think that atheism isn&#8217;t an idea such as one can convert to. Rather, atheism is a negation of the belief in a God or gods. It&#8217;s really not a matter of converting from one belief to another, but as far as science is concerned, from trivially accepting one proposition (i.e. a hypothesis or theory) to rejecting a proposition. &#8220;Converting&#8221; is entirely out of the question. </p>
<p>I suppose I digress. Now then, would I convert instantly to atheism given rigorously proven data that God does not exist?<br />
Strictly speaking, the existence of God remains outside of the limits of science. So while no one could ever disprove the existence of God (b/c science merely deals in disproving, rather than proving) any Christian could also never presume to be more than an agnostic, as far as the limits of science are concerned. So again I have to ask what the point of your proposition is?</p>
<p>Also, science is amoral.  So, I&#8217;m really quite curious what you mean by an &#8220;ethical scientist&#8221;. I believe that any scientist should, indeed, rightly be a skeptic, which casts into a fair bit of doubt your statement that a scientist would instantly convert to Christianity.  I remind you that Christianity is far from being the only belief system, religion or the like that is based upon the existence of a deity. </p>
<p>You say, &#8220;Creationists [...] need only misinterpret the data to fit your ideological goals.&#8221; See, this is where the element of peer-review comes into the scientific method. And I risk sounding somewhat unscientific in daring you to do this, but please, if you find I misinterpret any data (ideological goals, for the moment, aside) don&#8217;t hesitate but to correct me.  Seriously.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Rich</title>
		<link>http://pesharim.wordpress.com/about/#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 20:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve read through some of your posts with great amusement. 

Scientists postulate based on existing evidence and the reproduction repeatable results in their pursuit of the unknown.

Creationists such as yourself, the unknown already being &quot;known&quot; via faith, need only misinterpret the data to fit your ideological goals. Luckily, there&#039;s only ever one answer - &quot;God&quot;. How convenient for you. It saves you the trouble of actually engaging in meaningful scientific work while at the same time poking &quot;holes&quot; in theories that threaten your ideology. 

Any ethical scientist would convert instantly to Christianity given rigorously proven data that God exists.

Can you say the same re: God not existing, given the mounting evidence that the universe is much much bigger than an anthropomorphic god derived from a text even now becoming increasingly culturally irrelevant? Oh right, the only thing that could create such a universe would be an even more complex God. Phew, that makes things easy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve read through some of your posts with great amusement. </p>
<p>Scientists postulate based on existing evidence and the reproduction repeatable results in their pursuit of the unknown.</p>
<p>Creationists such as yourself, the unknown already being &#8220;known&#8221; via faith, need only misinterpret the data to fit your ideological goals. Luckily, there&#8217;s only ever one answer &#8211; &#8220;God&#8221;. How convenient for you. It saves you the trouble of actually engaging in meaningful scientific work while at the same time poking &#8220;holes&#8221; in theories that threaten your ideology. </p>
<p>Any ethical scientist would convert instantly to Christianity given rigorously proven data that God exists.</p>
<p>Can you say the same re: God not existing, given the mounting evidence that the universe is much much bigger than an anthropomorphic god derived from a text even now becoming increasingly culturally irrelevant? Oh right, the only thing that could create such a universe would be an even more complex God. Phew, that makes things easy!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Enlightening Conversation with Tony Miano by Random Passerby</title>
		<link>http://pesharim.wordpress.com/2008/09/28/enlightening-conversation-with-tony-miano/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Random Passerby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Nov 2008 07:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not Biblical to have a gun? What about a knife? A weapon is only as deadly as the person who wields it.Jesus whipped people out of the Temple,so was his possession of a whip unbiblical? Surely he could have cajoled them into leaving, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not Biblical to have a gun? What about a knife? A weapon is only as deadly as the person who wields it.Jesus whipped people out of the Temple,so was his possession of a whip unbiblical? Surely he could have cajoled them into leaving, right?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speechless by Jonathan Brennekce</title>
		<link>http://pesharim.wordpress.com/2008/10/09/speechless/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Brennekce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm.... I&#039;m getting the impression I phrased the above post rather poorly, the part of the video I was highlighting was mostly the second video at about 5:45. I was merely trying to convey the impression of the sheer massiveness of the universe, but ok...

&quot;Does that create a connection between Nazism and molecular biology? No.&quot;

Did I say that laminin creates a connection between Christianity and molecular biology? Perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn&#039;t, but I didn&#039;t say that.

&quot;....doesn’t base its fundamental theories based on what structures look like...&quot;

I also didn&#039;t say that Christianity bases its fundamental theories on what structures look like. Neither, I believe, did Mr. Giglio. Correct me if I&#039;m wrong, seriously. 


That being said, thank you for the comment. You made a very good point which I hope I have addressed to your satisfaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm&#8230;. I&#8217;m getting the impression I phrased the above post rather poorly, the part of the video I was highlighting was mostly the second video at about 5:45. I was merely trying to convey the impression of the sheer massiveness of the universe, but ok&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Does that create a connection between Nazism and molecular biology? No.&#8221;</p>
<p>Did I say that laminin creates a connection between Christianity and molecular biology? Perhaps it does, perhaps it doesn&#8217;t, but I didn&#8217;t say that.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;.doesn’t base its fundamental theories based on what structures look like&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I also didn&#8217;t say that Christianity bases its fundamental theories on what structures look like. Neither, I believe, did Mr. Giglio. Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong, seriously. </p>
<p>That being said, thank you for the comment. You made a very good point which I hope I have addressed to your satisfaction.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Speechless by JStein</title>
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		<dc:creator>JStein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm... Laminin, for those who are informed by only what televangelists say, also causes congenital muscular dystrophy and progeria, two of the most painful disorders I&#039;m aware of.

As P.Z. Myers has pointed out, the potassium channels in the brain look &lt;a href=&quot;http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/04/28/kchannel.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an awful lot like a swastika&lt;/a&gt;.

Does that create a connection between Nazism and molecular biology? No.

The scientific community, it turns out, doesn&#039;t base its fundamental theories based on what structures look like, and that&#039;s why there hasn&#039;t been a mass movement of bio-chemists converting to Christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230; Laminin, for those who are informed by only what televangelists say, also causes congenital muscular dystrophy and progeria, two of the most painful disorders I&#8217;m aware of.</p>
<p>As P.Z. Myers has pointed out, the potassium channels in the brain look <a href="http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2008/04/28/kchannel.jpg" rel="nofollow">an awful lot like a swastika</a>.</p>
<p>Does that create a connection between Nazism and molecular biology? No.</p>
<p>The scientific community, it turns out, doesn&#8217;t base its fundamental theories based on what structures look like, and that&#8217;s why there hasn&#8217;t been a mass movement of bio-chemists converting to Christianity.</p>
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		<title>Comment on (Sticky Post) Reader Poll &#8211; Research Essay by Kelley R.</title>
		<link>http://pesharim.wordpress.com/2008/09/24/reader-poll-research-essay/#comment-121</link>
		<dc:creator>Kelley R.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:12:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. I saw your comments at Raytractors and just wanted to check out your blog. (I like it, not that it matters ;D) I also wanted to say I really respect you for the evenhanded and open minded manner with which you approach the dialogue, both at AC and Raytractors. Obviously I haven&#039;t read every comment you&#039;ve ever left, but based on what I&#039;ve read I really appreciate the fairness you show the various posters/commenters.

Just out of curiosity, since you mention it in this most recent blog post, what is your stance on the creationism/evolution? I know you are religious, but that doesn&#039;t necessarily guarantee anything one way or the other and your post was a little ambiguous. (Not trying to start a debate, I really am just curious...)

Maybe this isn&#039;t quite what you&#039;re looking for as  a suggestion, but I&#039;m always really keen on mammalian evolution, especially similarities between whales and land mammals (vestigial organs, behavior similarities etc.)

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. I saw your comments at Raytractors and just wanted to check out your blog. (I like it, not that it matters ;D) I also wanted to say I really respect you for the evenhanded and open minded manner with which you approach the dialogue, both at AC and Raytractors. Obviously I haven&#8217;t read every comment you&#8217;ve ever left, but based on what I&#8217;ve read I really appreciate the fairness you show the various posters/commenters.</p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, since you mention it in this most recent blog post, what is your stance on the creationism/evolution? I know you are religious, but that doesn&#8217;t necessarily guarantee anything one way or the other and your post was a little ambiguous. (Not trying to start a debate, I really am just curious&#8230;)</p>
<p>Maybe this isn&#8217;t quite what you&#8217;re looking for as  a suggestion, but I&#8217;m always really keen on mammalian evolution, especially similarities between whales and land mammals (vestigial organs, behavior similarities etc.)</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Paleo-Orni-Theology by Reader Poll - Research Essay &#171; Pesharim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader Poll - Research Essay &#171; Pesharim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I want it to focus on a specific, non-hominid fossil group, such as a previous essay I wrote and posted here on Archaeopteryx lithographica, or, even as broad as Synapsids and the evolution of [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Open Letter To Ray Comfort by Open Leter to Ray Comfort (Cont.) &#171; Pesharim</title>
		<link>http://pesharim.wordpress.com/2008/05/04/open-letter-to-ray-comfort/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Open Leter to Ray Comfort (Cont.) &#171; Pesharim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 01:19:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Open Leter to Ray Comfort&#160;(Cont.) September 19, 2008 Posted by Jonathan Brennekce in Christianity, Philosophy of Science.  Tags: Belief, Believe, Brennecke, Comfort, compromise, cymbols, forgive, God, Jesus, Jonathan, law, Leter, Love, lover, open, Ray, Ray Comfort, reckless, Savior, sin, uncompromising trackback  See the Original Open Letter Here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Open Leter to Ray Comfort&nbsp;(Cont.) September 19, 2008 Posted by Jonathan Brennekce in Christianity, Philosophy of Science.  Tags: Belief, Believe, Brennecke, Comfort, compromise, cymbols, forgive, God, Jesus, Jonathan, law, Leter, Love, lover, open, Ray, Ray Comfort, reckless, Savior, sin, uncompromising trackback  See the Original Open Letter Here. [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Guest Blog Post by Timothy Brennecke &#8211; Revelations, The Seven Churches by Arthur Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arthur Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 21:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for such a concise and clear explanation. Keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for such a concise and clear explanation. Keep up the good work!</p>
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